Athunasu Beast Druid Watcher vs Kalivar Undead Thief Nexus

I'm sorry what were you crying about????  This pretty much shows me that if I get blackjacked.. I'm dead. 

-24 Saves

-35 Mental

The antimagic springs!

You feel less sick.

The Arms of Gaia no longer protect you.

You feel solid again.

The circle of protection around you fades.

The green aura around your body fades.

You slowly float to the ground.

Your skin feels soft again.

You no longer see invisible objects.

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Kalivar's backstab <<< ERADICATES >>> you!

That really did HURT!

Kalivar's second backstab *** OBLITERATES *** you!

Kalivar is in excellent condition. 

Athunasu: [===|===|---|---]

<446hp 825m 431mv> You are carrying:

     (Glowing) (Humming) a horrific key

     a barrel of milk

     (Glowing) a slab of starstone

     'Herighon' the Wrath of Balance

     a leather quiver

     (Glowing) Rod of Stars

     (Humming) a portable hole

     a small canoe

     a scroll titled 'Transient Decapitation'

     a shiny pin

     A coral-hafted trident

     (Glowing) a steel coif adorned with a muddy bauble

( 3) (Glowing) a dark red potion

Kalivar is in excellent condition. 

Athunasu: [===|===|---|---]

<446hp 825m 431mv> 

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You get a dark red potion from a portable hole.

Kalivar is in excellent condition. 

Athunasu: [===|===|---|---]

<446hp 825m 431mv> 

You can't smoke that.

Kalivar is in excellent condition. 

Athunasu: [===|===|---|---]

<446hp 825m 431mv> 

Kalivar's divine power MANGLES you!

You dodge Kalivar's attack.

You dodge Kalivar's attack.

You dodge Kalivar's attack.

Kalivar's corruption DISMEMBERS you!

You flee from combat!

A treant says 'Come back when you have no blood upon you Athunasu.'

You flee from combat!

Chestbuster springs!

Chestbuster's shrapnel === DISINTEGRATES === you!

You sure are BLEEDING!

Smoldering Campsite

  The campsite smells like burned hair. Charred bones lie in the ashes of the

fire pit. The grass has been stamped down around the area.

[Exits: north east west]

     There is a fire pit here, still smoldering.

A green dragon flies in.

Kalivar throws his steel daggers and hits you with one of them.

Kalivar's blow wounds you gravely.

Kalivar's throw *** DEMOLISHES *** you!

You sure are BLEEDING!

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You get a dark red potion from a portable hole.

<2hp 825m 429mv> You can't smoke that.

<2hp 825m 429mv> Kalivar flies in.

You invoke a druid gate, and vanish!

An Avalanche-Crushed Shrine

  Once a beautiful religious spot, now a steady upwards hill of shale 

rocks and splintered trees.  The rock slide has now become a bed of 

fir trees, which have been growing for decades by the look of it, 

providing shade over the old ruins of the shrine.  This shrine, by the 

look of it, is not one to the glory of the earth elementals, but 

rather the ruins sport different, foreign symbols.  It is reasonable 

to assume perhaps even the elements sometimes feud among themselves. 

Since the avalanche has covered the way up to the shrine mostly, and 

the cliffs of the edge of the Canyon itself are to the west, the only 

road out is the one the way you came.

[Exits: south]

     A skeleton wearing indigo robes is half-crushed by the avalanche.

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You attempt to camouflage yourself.

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Smoldering Campsite

  The campsite smells like burned hair. Charred bones lie in the ashes of the

fire pit. The grass has been stamped down around the area.

[Exits: north east west]

     There is a fire pit here, still smoldering.

(Charmed) A massive green dragon is here.

{Wolf} Athunasu the Exalted Defender of Nature is here.

Athunasu closes her eyes momentarily.

Athunasu invokes a druid gate, and vanishes!

hp:982/982 mn340/539 mv515/516

**They aren't here. :P (kidding!!)

Two HP is painful.. That's really, really painful.

Kalivar

I really doubt this log is much more than a fluke tbh. Failing that save has to be a very low chance, and honestly if you fail that save it SHOULD be lights out. Like fighting belsoqse, if he lands a hypno you should die.  The second log shows one thing for sure, with absolutely perfect setup, everything undeniably in Kalivars favor with very good rng for the backstab, playing the most melee oriented thief you can play, with some of the best eq you could get, in the strongest subcabal for a melee, kalivar couldn't get the kill lol. Based on that, it seems like thieves are forced to play in a way that isn't good for keeping active players. He HAS to strip eq, which just makes people want to leave. This log, while close, just shows that even if everything is perfect, it's still lucky if they can get a kill. Even without druid gate you can just run away.

No, you shouldn't be lights out if you miss that save. You should be crippled, you should be in big trouble and hope you can get your sanc up and be smart about it, but you shouldn't just be dead. The entire point of a thief doing this, is to get you so low that now their melee output can easily finish you off if your not smart about it. Sure, take 60% of my health, I'm fine with that, because then I can flee and have a small chance. But, if I take time to build up a character and make sure I cover my a** as much as possible so I can't just insta die, but then you almost insta die... I don't care what anyone says, that is extremely demoralizing. You might as well just give them ASSASSINATION without having to study. It's almost like you need your saves an obscene amount just so you don't insta die.

So to be clear you are saying the thief suite should be used to enable them to easily kill you with melee. So he used every tool possible for this fight. Blackjack into unsanced dual wield backstab into chestbuster and autothrow. Literally everything went perfect, and he DID NOT LAND A KILL. You flipping out, and threatening to delete over a death you didn't take is crazy man. Just look at the log, laugh, say wow man that was close. Can't wait for more, instead of OMFG THIS IS BULLSHIT THIEVES OP THIS IS POINTLESS I'M GONNA DELETE. I played when mordred was death kiss, and pretty much never failed to cure poison on strangle. So my fights with a super decked E stalker STARTED with me being blind, and with no charmie, versus a super decked hasted feral. I get it, it's painful. It's uphill. It's not worth trashing the char on forum and threatening deletion if you died to it. You've failed how many saves versus antimagic?

Everyone chill. 

Also post your name if you go anon or I’ll delete the posts.

Anti magic traps dont have the best success rate but when they do land, this happens.

Anti magic has a low cool down and easily placed in choke necks like here outside his cabal. Sooner or later, you will fail the save.

Had Kalivar been using Silver Daggers, this Druid would effectively been one rounded. The Thief didn't lose a point of HP. Three commands, trap anti east, blackjack druid, backstab druid.

Druid was just fortunate that his enemy had the wrong daggers and he had a druid gate alias.

Almost!

3 hours ago, Anonymous said:

'm sorry what were you crying about????  This pretty much shows me that if I get blackjacked.. I'm dead.

Don't flee from that without sanctuary. And if possible recall from combat.

From the look of it you weren't blackjacket. Which isn't deadly, just makes you lose stuff to pry.

Now dispel + blackjack is deadly.

5 hours ago, mya said:

Don't flee from that without sanctuary. And if possible recall from combat.

From the look of it you weren't blackjacket. Which isn't deadly, just makes you lose stuff to pry.

Now dispel + blackjack is deadly.

I was blackjacked, just did a quick edit to upload and me spamming inventory a million times needed to go, looks like I cut the blackjack out. All in all it was a good catch on the thief. I was in shock for like 15 minutes after this because I literally was almost insta dead. I've definitely have calmed down lol and can't really get mad. However, if this becomes a pattern with all my protections this high, then I'll start to get concerned or roll a feral Ninja and just go thief stomping. 

Athunasu

7 hours ago, 'tarako said:

So to be clear you are saying the thief suite should be used to enable them to easily kill you with melee. So he used every tool possible for this fight. Blackjack into unsanced dual wield backstab into chestbuster and autothrow. Literally everything went perfect, and he DID NOT LAND A KILL. You flipping out, and threatening to delete over a death you didn't take is crazy man. Just look at the log, laugh, say wow man that was close. Can't wait for more, instead of OMFG THIS IS BULLSHIT THIEVES OP THIS IS POINTLESS I'M GONNA DELETE. I played when mordred was death kiss, and pretty much never failed to cure poison on strangle. So my fights with a super decked E stalker STARTED with me being blind, and with no charmie, versus a super decked hasted feral. I get it, it's painful. It's uphill. It's not worth trashing the char on forum and threatening deletion if you died to it. You've failed how many saves versus antimagic?

Nah your right man. I think I was just in shock. As I mentioned everything went perfect for the thief and it was a tough pill to swallow. To be 2hp from insta dead is a really scary and crazy feeling. I'm always super prepared and try to plan best I can to avoid any insta deaths but again sometimes things can happen. I went out there knowing the thief was there and thought I was prepared for some fun action only to sh*t my pants and barely make out there alive and almost get what felt like an assassination thief style. 

Athunasu

7 hours ago, Chief said:

Had Kalivar been using Silver Daggers, this Druid would effectively been one rounded. The Thief didn't lose a point of HP. Three commands, trap anti east, blackjack druid, backstab druid.

I had a spell up that made me think it wouldn't have mattered what type of daggers. Though, I do have some and shoulda just pulled them out to be safe.

28 minutes ago, Anonymous said:

However, if this becomes a pattern with all my protections this high, then I'll start to get concerned or roll a feral Ninja and just go thief stomping. 

Athunasu

That's the spirit! Almost die to me and roll a character designed to kill me.. That's what we in the biz like to call a "class-act"..🙄

I have failed SO many antimagic traps or seen them defused by people that it felt good to see one land this heavily. What're you so mad about? I've failed twice as many vs you than the ONE that succeeded. On top of that, you actually killed me and you got away with 2 freaking hp, lol. Why so salty? I'm the one that's supposed to be upset!

kalivar

Surprised that antimagic landed. 1 out of 200 attempts most likely and still he could not finish the druid? Is that druid gate invokable anywhere? Thought you needed to be in a green room only in order for it to work. The room he gates off from is brown, or grey even if I am not mistaken. If druid gate can be invoked anywhere then it is a stupid mechanic that needs to be fixed, to avoid unkillable always able to get away druids. Don't think we need any unkillable classes and at the moment we got 2 classes that can get away from almost anything anytime - druids and good clerics.  I still think thieves need some love and a change in playstyle that will only come from removing pry/plant. We don't need thieves that only rob people and quit either.

46 minutes ago, Anonymous said:

1 hour ago, Anonymous said:

However, if this becomes a pattern with all my protections this high, then I'll start to get concerned or roll a feral Ninja and just go thief stomping. 

Athunasu

That's the spirit! Almost die to me and roll a character designed to kill me.. That's what we in the biz like to call a "class-act"..🙄

Oh my, sounds awfully familiar threat there. :)

Anyway, I guess this gets locked quite fast. I guess this player was in his safe space bubble with ZERO DEATHS PEWDIEPIE! and then when it NEARLY died the bubble burst and now we see the aftermath. Chill little, understand that yet again it is not towards YOU when people talk about DRUIDS. It is extremely lucky to get a kill on a druid ... and oh wait, there was no kill. Wtf? What is this rage about again? Oh right.

43 minutes ago, hotspring monkey said:

Oh my, sounds awfully familiar threat there. :)

Anyway, I guess this gets locked quite fast. I guess this player was in his safe space bubble with ZERO DEATHS PEWDIEPIE! and then when it NEARLY died the bubble burst and now we see the aftermath. Chill little, understand that yet again it is not towards YOU when people talk about DRUIDS. It is extremely lucky to get a kill on a druid ... and oh wait, there was no kill. Wtf? What is this rage about again? Oh right.

Memories... The good old days.

4 hours ago, hotspring monkey said:

Oh my, sounds awfully familiar threat there. :)

Anyway, I guess this gets locked quite fast. I guess this player was in his safe space bubble with ZERO DEATHS PEWDIEPIE! and then when it NEARLY died the bubble burst and now we see the aftermath. Chill little, understand that yet again it is not towards YOU when people talk about DRUIDS. It is extremely lucky to get a kill on a druid ... and oh wait, there was no kill. Wtf? What is this rage about again? Oh right.

I think this was the funniest thing you've ever posted. Go figure.

Thats isn't setup doen't be equals to an insta kill. In the old days when more thieves played you learned early to don't flee from that setup. Much less unsancted and unflying.

You get blackjacked and your first priority is to get sanctuary up. And check that you have weapons.

Then its exiting combat without fleeing.

Also pls don't hide the blackjack because its very relevant to backstab damage.

Some thieves used to not even go for the stab and just open with dirt + trip lock. Good for sliths, trying to get them locked from not being able to react fast enough and trap lagged.

Also how in hell silvanus trap works in a city?

See!  Like I said in my first post on this thread.  Sometimes your PK will be 20 seconds, some times it will take 20 tries.  2 hp, man that has to hurt the thief more than the druid.

10 hours ago, Mmm Beer said:

See!  Like I said in my first post on this thread.  Sometimes your PK will be 20 seconds, some times it will take 20 tries.  2 hp, man that has to hurt the thief more than the druid.

Thief's all. ENVENOM FUCK probably. 😈

I'm curious how the druid was wounded gravely from throw but was able to move, and cast a spell, without it ticking damage

Undead thief/ninja are one of the strongest combos. Let me tell you something dude. You never used your undead skill on the druid which is one of the strongest skills in the game. You never used your traps properly. You just expected to outdamage in a melee fight one of the most defensive classes in the game right next to bmage. Thieves are not underpowered. A well played thief can dominate the pbase very easily even with its current arsenal of skills.