Can this be set to like 15, and not 60..
i mean 60 cp is quite a bit just to run some locates. 
CP costs for locate
i never really located stuff with cp before, but is there any advantage to having thwe cabal do it for you? Like higher level items that pcs can't locate, the combined power of those npcs can? If so, it'd be worth the high cp cost, I believe, if not, then agree with Kyzarius on lowering it abit.
not any advantage other than you can use it as a class that normally cant locate.
I think this cabal service should be removed altogether to prevent abuse of locate corpse.
And locate spring.
I just always asked in game. Or located stuff when I was playing a mage alt.
I find it OOC to ask a mage to locate stuff when one is Gladiator.
I would prefer the cost for the service revised...
Yeah? Do you also not wear EQ with the glowing or humming flags? Do you not drink from magical springs? Do you use city gates? Do you use all mundane weapons?
Or located stuff when I was playing a mage alt.
You're of course aware that locating something for a character on ANOTHER character would be ooc, illegal and cheating, so I guess you didn't really mean that...
Of course I meant it. If I'm on my mage and I'm bored and I feel like locating stuff, I'm gonna do it. That way I know what is in for my allies and can help them get stuff.
Well, I'll say it again then. It is illegal to locate stuff on one char for another of your chars. It is ooc knowledge transfer, it is cheating. If you do it and we catch it, both chars will be punished, up to denial.
It is especially bad if you locate something on a char and then switch right over to the other to get it.
Well, I'll say it again then. It is illegal to locate stuff on one char for another of your chars. It is ooc knowledge transfer, it is cheating. If you do it and we catch it, both chars will be punished, up to denial.
It is especially bad if you locate something on a char and then switch right over to the other to get it.
kind of open ended there anume..
how can you interpret this as abuse? it has no quantifiable point of guilt.
A person with a mage is going to use locate, often. So if they happen to have a character without locate...that they play later that is cheating if they happen to pick up any items they previously located?
A little over the top in my opinion, might as well enforce a one character one IP rule if your going to go so far as to try and censor a players brain between their characters.
Simple.
Abuse: log on A, loctate item, log off - log on B, get item (This is a clear transfer of ooc knowledge. If you had not located it your char B would ask someone else to locate it first or probably not look for the item at all.)
Not abuse: log on A, locate an item for someone else, help them get it. OR
locate item, keep playing the character
If you happen to still find the item there a day or 4 hours later on char B that is not abuse, as someone else could have gotten it in the meantime.
In general, why would char A locate something neither he nor his allies need. It is clearly OOC motivated. If you locate something you only need on char B that alone is something you should not do.
What I really dislike is dieing to a mob, having a caballed character locate corpse, then running there and full looting you.
Or worse, busting into your cabal and waiting at your pit to full loot your mob death.
We should take away this service from caballed characters, and expand the outfit command to all characters regardless of cabal.
Actually, I think the whole cabal system needs reworking.
Who knows what your allies might need? My mages locate items sometimes simply to know who has what (PKs). Other times I locate things just to locate them.
OOC knowledge xfer of something that your CharB could never know is one thing. OOC knowledge xfer of something your CharB could easily find out on his own is just saving time.
OOC knowledge xfer happens every day on some level. There are instances where it hampers gameplay/RP (me knowing ur in Battle because my CharA is WM, and then killing you on my CharB who is in Hourglass but shouldnt even know ur in Battle) and then there are isntances where it just doesnt freaking matter except to flex muscle.
There are TONS of reasons any mage would locate any item. If that mage then plays their melee later on in the day...who's to say he wouldnt be checking on the same items for himself in the first place? Who's to say he wouldn't have gone to look? Whats the difference between asking going to look yourself, asking someone to locate it, or remembering you saw it on the mob or located it on the mob on another char? I only know where the baron even IS because of OOC knowledge. Should I ask someone first before going to find him?
Just because I located something in Discord doesn't mean I should have to wait X amount of hours to play my other 50 who would have been trying to clear Steel/Blood/Discord anyway.
Simple.
Abuse: log on A, loctate item, log off - log on B, get item (This is a clear transfer of ooc knowledge. If you had not located it your char B would ask someone else to locate it first or probably not look for the item at all.)
Not abuse: log on A, locate an item for someone else, help them get it. OR
locate item, keep playing the character
If you happen to still find the item there a day or 4 hours later on char B that is not abuse, as someone else could have gotten it in the meantime.
In general, why would char A locate something neither he nor his allies need. It is clearly OOC motivated. If you locate Not so much.something you only need on char B that alone is something you should not do.
Sure if you want to get denied you can ignore all rules and do whatever you want 
Char switching without any waiting period is already frowned upon as it is, if you add locating stuff for the other, it crosses the line, simple as that.
Back on topic. I think the cost is justified. A class that does not have the spell should not have an EASY (=cheap) way to locate a lot of stuff, it should be costly and thus used sparingly.
Ok but I already said it should be removed, so what is keeping you from removing it? Seriously, people... smile and obey. Give tribute to your master!
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Even if you can get away with some light cheating through excuses, it doesn't make you a very good sport and isn't in the spirit of fun.
Just like people who hunt weak characters very aggressively (especially with weak RP geared only to force the fight with those people) and log off against/ignore tough ones all the time. It makes your pk record a pile of mush and discredits you OOCly as a person. If you roll over somebody, you should be finding excuses to NOT multikill them, not the reverse.
Yes, you can also make your RP to be a prick all the time. That is why I taunt you, that is why I loot you, that is why I multikill you, that is why I am a coward in face of strong foes. It is all that my character would do. To this I say, stop making characters with such horribly detrimental RP. This is what breeds negativity and is probably the root cause of most deletions and people leaving. And certainly don't repeat these arrogant traits across all your characters, that speaks of OOC things coming through.
Having a 50-1 pk record against 50 looted/weak/medium enemies and also having 50 logouts from/short one round 'I fought him, see!' fights with dangerous foes doesn't speak well of your PK skill at all and isn't the least bit impressive.
Transferring knowledge from one character to the next is not in the spirit of fair or fun play, just like the above pk situations. This includes clan information, items that are in, cabal alliances, pk grudges, whatever. Just because it saves you time isn't an acceptable retort. Training bots save you time too. As do most other kinds of cheating.
So, you are right Kyzarius, you can probably get away with it usually. Just like you can get away with making punk/trash characters. For the sake of the game and your personal ethics, we can only hope that you have better taste than that.