I guess lets face it- until assasination is taken out- Ninjas are going to be a taboo topic. So lets take that glorified " one hit KO" and scrap it, so they dont have to be a wimpy slave to it anymore.
After that, I think the Ninja will be able to be worked on- so they would be more of a hybrid Rogue/Magic class.
Just a thought.
Can I get a ninja hug?
I guess lets face it- until assasination is taken out- Ninjas are going to be a taboo topic. So lets take that glorified " one hit KO" and scrap it, so they dont have to be a wimpy slave to it anymore.
After that, I think the Ninja will be able to be worked on- so they would be more of a hybrid Rogue/Magic class.
Just a thought.
I'm all in favor of this. I've never played a ninja, but from what I've read of them/fought with them, I think they could be so much cooler. That, and I absolutely despise the whole assassinate concept. Just seems cheesy to me.
Assassinate isn't broken so no need to remove or fix it. Just make the skill only available to a certain path.
No it doesn't. I had a lotus scourge Undead Ninja and whilst I didn't use it to it's potential, it's really, really good.
Dey
Since I try to give a better option for lotus scourge, what does 'no it doesn't' means? L2R? After all, It was not a question, but more like an idea for lotus scourge.
No it doesn't. I had a lotus scourge Undead Ninja and whilst I didn't use it to it's potential, it's really, really good.
Dey
Does it sounds to you like some kind of idea or something?
Can I get a ninja hug?
ninja hug- 
You've been weakened! (not much lol)
Assassinate isn't broken so no need to remove or fix it. Just make the skill only available to a certain path.
Im not saying its broken, but its what the ninja is based around.
And I think taking it away- (not saying the three path idea is wrong)
But yeah, i guess limit to the TRUE assassin class.
Before, Batman was referenced somewhere along the line-
Thats who I think is like- the modern day, Ninja dude.
Lets see some Batman in ninjas lol
Batman is a lawful/evil Capitalist.
Punishing the weak and poor with his millions used for toys to do so,
instead of social healthcare and the like.
I see alot of "The Dark Knight" in , ummh, the DarkKnight.
Robin could fit as a ninja though
drools evilly
Batmal evil/lawful?
You really need to work on your align/ethos knowledge.
Batman is good/chaotic.
and next you would deny that "The Joker"
is not good/chaotic,
helping all his poor fellows and such, by any means necessary!
admit it, the "Dark Knight" bought your conspiracy!
A baterrang for free? A free drive in the batmobile?
The truth you behold is the truth you've been told.
drooling evilly i await to Joker to get a pay to me
and next you would deny that "The Joker"
is not good/chaotic,
helping all his poor fellows and such, by any means necessary!
admit it, the "Dark Knight" bought your conspiracy!
A baterrang for free? A free drive in the batmobile?
The truth you behold is the truth you've been told.
drooling evilly i await to Joker to get a pay to me
Lol, the only payment you might get from him is a knife in the ***
Since I try to give a better option for lotus scourge' date=' what does 'no it doesn't' means? L2R? After all, It was not a question, but more like an idea for lotus scourge.[/quote']
I meant that it does more than I think is commonly known. "No it doesn't" meant "No it doesn't just improve upon poisons affects". I had fun figuring out a few of its hidden properties but wasn't quite skilled enough to utilise it to its potential. Your 'L2R' comment makes me think my post came across as all-knowing and arrogant - that wasn't the intent, just there's a lot of misinformation surrounding lotus scourge.
Dey
So you want to say that lotus scourge is fine as it is?
Lol' date=' the only payment you might get from him is a knife in the ***
lol. You guys make me LMAO- Though I think that Batman is far from the DK- i mean, when in the hell does he go around, praying making malforms and throw fireballs?
Him and Robin run around, in the shadows with all of those nifty gadgets-
doing mostly hand to hand- ko action. Batman himself is a shadow arts guy. Though when some fools run up in bat cave- im sure assassinations are hitting the fan.
Perhaps Batman would be more Akin to the double sheath- due to the batarangs.... dunno lol.
In summation, Batman IS a ninja- Robin too- and the Joker is a thief....
Backstab anyone?
So you want to say that lotus scourge is fine as it is?
I think it is more situational than the other ninjitsu. It has the potential to be very crippling, but only under certain circumstances. I think it is fine as it is, but weaker than falcon eye in the long run if you want out-and-out killing - but I believe that can be said for all ninjitsu.
Dey
And how can I cripple an ogre giant or something else with more than 1000hp with this poison?Or how can I cripple a communer that can cure it with one spell or those who are already poisoned?
Not allowed to say. Suffice to say, some of those issues you point out, are not issues. 
Dey
i shall fall into your tricks,Batman is an evil tyrant.Ever since i got in psychical therapy at Miss Prof. Dr.Dr. Harley Quinn's Sanatorium, i know whom i shall trust!
BackToTopic
Maybe some relation of ninjitsu development and alignment would also be interesting. The different paths on ninjitsu could taste differently depending on alignment.
Like give the specific abilities some alignment based sidekick.
like dysentry,curse,insomnia (come into my evil mind;) with no 100%kickIn rate though.
A few ideas
I had a pretty lengthy response laced with ideas, but my internet went kaput and I lost all of my text, so I figured I would kind of throw out a shortened version of a few ideas I had been thinking on. They could prove completely useless and/or counterproductive, but I thought they sounded pretty cool, and may somehow spark some ideas.
Concerning Lotus Scourge: When I think ninja, I kinda think of...dart guns, and shooting poisoned darts from the shadows. Perhaps that upon selecting this ninjitsu, along with the upgraded poison, perhaps allow the ninja to, upon beginning combat from the shadows, to launch one, or a volley, of darts, as an autoattack. The damage would be miminal (scratch, graze), though, the target would be inflicted with the poison. Also, though I'm not sure how hard it would be to code it in, allow the Lotus Scourge poison to either replace a self-inflicted poison in the target, or even use the weaker, 1 or 2 hour poison, as a buffer, or stack, to the stronger poison.
Concerning Melee Abilities: I believe it was Croyvern's post I was reading, regarding different paths of ninjas, namely a melee ninja and an added defence. Perhaps, something similar to riposte, only instead of the damage done like a warrior, perhaps some different effects? Again, when I think of a ninjas fighting style, I think of deception, misdirection, and keeping the opponent off balance. The deception/misdrection could come in the form of some added defence, perhaps like a parry/sidestep, or some sort of feint, in which the ninja could utilize his superior position to sort of....nudge, or push, or some sort of strike, that would cause his opponent to lose balance a bit. Almost like a very, very slight lag attack. In some instances, maybe lag juuust enough that the ninja can get there flee off just before being bashed for the 2nd/3rd/4th time by the warrior he is engaged with. Again, the lag would be miminal. Just enough to allow the ninja a narrow escape, perhaps, or to keep there wounded opponent around long enough for one more trip/grapple.
Concerning a Magi Ninja idea: Perhaps, an ability that would allow the Ninja to infuse his blade with KI magic, lending it a minor damage boost, or some sort of extra attack(flaming/freezing/shocking bite, etc...). Or, perhaps, giving the ninja a sort of leveling ability for there weapon, similar to a Malform. The bonuses would be no where near that of a Malform, but just a small boost. Maybe cap the level out at 3 kills or so. Everytime the ninja dies, the blade loses its Magical enchantment. The bonuses won't be enough to make someone ragedelete after dieing, but enough to give the ninja a small boost in combat.