Should ALWAYS give XP,.
you should not be able to lock your level and continue to battle raids, it should force you to gain the XP and lvl you if applicable.
Fighting Raids
Why? This is not the case with killing any other mob either?
Raids are an involved piece of cabal warfare. The mobs also give huge XP rewards.
Why would we allow people to lock their level, influence cabal warfare, but remain immune to reprisal?
I also think returning a standard or capping a standard should reward significant unavoidable XP to anyone who is not 50. I am talking like 2 - 3k. This would prevent the same thing happening when that 41 repeatedly returns the standar. I know most lvl 50's wouldnt mind retriving or capping a standard a few times knowing that the person righ toutside their range will lvl after only a few iterations of the current loop..
By adjusting autoxp to not apply to raids
1, deny the small percentage that would remain at lvl X to avoid the lvl 50 pk range without harming any other aspect of the game.
2, This type of change would only allow for positive advancement
3, takes nothing away from anyone, and requires less moderation on the imms side than the current "report it to us" SOP.
If we want to induct poeple into cabals sooner (which most players do), forsight shows these things would be problems.
I think the issue he is facing is that people are killing off his raiders, and taking the gold, and ruining the raid, and messing up his CP, but because they are staying low level, he can't do anything about it, except watch.
Bounties man, bounties. Even a low level might realize the error of their ways, when separated from the neck up. T
Anyone inducted early into a cabal who runs around with autoexp for any extended period of time will seriously get their behinds kicked by their cabal imm.
As to others, I don't think it would matter if someone is level 30 or 31 to the pinned Watcher / Syndicate.
As to others, I don't think it would matter if someone is level 30 or 31 to the pinned Watcher / Syndicate.
But, that level 30 can get a group, and kill off a whole raid, and that's a definite influence into level 50 business.
How about: Raids can only be attacked by people in PK range of the person who sent them. That gives a large group who can still fight off a raid, but keeps the little level 30's from getting in the way
But, that level 30 can get a group, and kill off a whole raid, and that's a definite influence into level 50 business.
How about: Raids can only be attacked by people in PK range of the person who sent them. That gives a large group who can still fight off a raid, but keeps the little level 30's from getting in the way
nah, I wouldnt agree there frosty. Raids have RP value as well, so letting all ranges fight them is fine.
Remeber, the raids are scaled from 1 - 4 in intensity. The 4 raid is most expensive, however anyone under 40 usually gets creamed without a group to help them.
Anume,
The point of my suggestion is to make it so IMMS do NOT have to police this form of abuse. You guys just keep growing this list of things, and everything has the same answer...report them to the imms...yet what is the biggest player complaint? The imms take to long. This is because you have TO MUCH that you have to police. A fundamental flaw IMO.
Would be more work for us to handle the "I didn't mean to rank past 30, I want my app" stuff this way, really. I don't see a big problem with people with autoexp defending a raid, I do not think that even happens a lot at all. (Don't think I've seen it...)
There were a few 'autoexp' chars in cabals the last week or so that sat at 41 for an extended period of time. Some that just sat with armies, some that waited until they were V to continue. I also think if you're cabaled early you should not have access to the autoexp command.
And this isn't a pot shot, at all, to being let in early. I LOVE being let in early, but I'm not gonna hit autoexp and sit around until I'm V to continue on. That's just ridiculous.
There were a few 'autoexp' chars in cabals the last week or so that sat at 41 for an extended period of time. Some that just sat with armies' date=' some that waited until they were V to continue.[/quote']
this is my experience recently as well, where is all this IMM "busting ***" like we hear about..they made it 20 hours in game camping outside the 50 range.
think if you're cabaled early you should not have access to the autoexp command.
that is a better modified idea. that wont effect lvl 30 quest people.
And this isn't a pot shot, at all, to being let in early. I LOVE being let in early, but I'm not gonna hit autoexp and sit around until I'm V to continue on. That's just ridiculous.
This, right here. 20 hours, the MO is to wait that long, then lvl to 50.
Haven't seen anyone doing that. Have seen some people with really big exp holes from a couple mob deaths.
If you - THINK - it is happening, ask an Imm or post on prayer.
Also bear in mind that a lot of training tends to be done in the 40-41 range, which could easily account for plenty of hours.
I've noticed certain sub-50 caballed people being pretty aggressive toward cabal standards vs out-of-pk 50s. Is that frowned upon at all? If not, perhaps it should be.
Also bear in mind that a lot of training tends to be done in the 40-41 range' date=' which could easily account for plenty of hours.[/quote']
This should be done before applying, or done with cabal cps. End of story. Submitting your cabal app and then sitting around for 20+ hours to do your training is a bunch of horse ****.
I've noticed certain sub-50 caballed people being pretty aggressive toward cabal standards vs out-of-pk 50s. Is that frowned upon at all? If not' date=' perhaps it should be.[/quote']
it is what I am talking about here, as well as raids.
So we have three people now who have come across this in game.
still a none issue?
Kyzarius, your approach is not really very constructive. How about you tell us about it (prayer) instead of saying "YOU IMMS NEVER DO ANYTHING!!". And yes, I do not think this is an issue as this has been just this way for years now without any major complaints or complications.
There is really more important stuff for us to fix / change than this.
Edit: It also takes about 5 seconds to tell someone "It's time to gain a couple titles" which I have done from time to time when I noticed someone not ranking in a reasonable amount of time.
This should be done before applying' date=' or done with cabal cps. End of story. Submitting your cabal app and then sitting around for 20+ hours to do your training is a bunch of horse ****.[/quote']
Depending on one's class, and depending on when one makes it into the cabal, one can gain plenty of skills after becoming caballed that require training. It's also quite conceivable that someone who is caballed early on had such happen for showing exceptional RP, which is entirely independent from how well trained their character is, and they may have done very little training prior to being given the opportunity to apply (remember, cabal apps aren't qrace apps - the latter you can send whenever you want, the former is within a fairly fixed time period).
I think we can pretty much all agree that people shouldn't be wasting their time if they're caballed or qraced or whatever, and should be working on the general goal of getting to 50. But I think it's a bit ridiculous to say that they need to bust *** to try to get there ASAP as well. There's a middle ground that allows caballed people to still train and actually enjoy themselves RPing or PKing pre-50 without sitting at the same rank forever. If you've got a problem with a specific character, toss it to the IMMs - I mean, it's not like this is a consistent problem. It comes up once every few years by my recollection, and within a week or so is entirely forgotten once that one character that the OP was annoyed with starts gaining levels again.
Lol, raids are strong enough as it is. People VERY RARELY defend against raids. A Watcher or a Syndicate just has to send a raid and a Tribunal will be screwed in terms of support and cps unless there's only one Watcher/Syndicate and two Tribs. Cry me a river on this one.
Well K, if you raid while there is a trib who isn't in you PK range, you can't expect him not to defend while you are gaining massive CP and he is losing them.
That's like beating a small kid and then complaining that his older brother beat you i.e. you know he would defend and you know there is nothing you can do about it, yet you still do it. Seems a bit silly to me to complain about something which you could have easily avoided.
Just my 2c.
As for non pinns being standard aggressive and camping out of the pinns range, talk to your IMM to let some non pinns in your own cabal. Pre 50 cabal warfare has always been fun.
There is really more important stuff for us to fix / change than this.
It also takes about 5 seconds to tell someone "It's time to gain a couple titles" which I have done from time to time when I noticed someone not ranking in a reasonable amount of time.
Haha yeah. I'm not seeing much of a problem either, the solution seems so easy.